tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19673259.post2038533522206980102..comments2023-10-12T10:10:26.191-05:00Comments on Second Effort: Everything I need to know I get from the comics, part 4,791The Curmudgeonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14723009641287783218noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19673259.post-68096304330491709552012-08-31T15:28:41.258-05:002012-08-31T15:28:41.258-05:00AndyK, if you mean that most Chicago vote fraud ha...AndyK, if you mean that most Chicago vote fraud has been done by people working the polls, I'd probably agree. A lot of the more egregious stuff happens outside the polling places, when campaign workers 'help' nursing home residents vote, for example. But no good precinct captain would ply a voter with a fifth of liquor, even in the bad old days -- a half-pint or pint at most -- after all, they have to see the ballot to punch the holes (or, in the old days, pull the lever -- that was easier).<br /><br />As you've probably noticed, I bristle at the increasing police-state-tendencies in this country. You've never seen a hymn of praise to the TSA on this page, for example. But I don't know what's unreasonable <i>per se</i> about verifying that the person presenting himself at the polling place as John Smith of 123 Main Street really is who he says he is. The question is how much verification should be required; how much is reasonable.<br /><br />Maybe I'm inclined this way, not just because I live in Chicago, but because when we got our most recent voter ID cards (would you oppose requiring <i>those</i>? I've never brought mine to the polls, but I suppose I could if that were the rule) -- anyway, when we got our most recent voter ID cards, Older Daughter got one -- and she's been married and living out of state for three years now and I know <i>for a certainty</i> that she's registered in Indiana. But someone -- an imposter or a faithless polling place judge -- could pull a ballot for her.<br /><br />This discussion deserves a more serious treatment than I'm able to give just now.The Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14723009641287783218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19673259.post-58921565888766067712012-08-31T13:45:29.933-05:002012-08-31T13:45:29.933-05:00All the hearsay stories of Chicago vote fraud I ha...All the hearsay stories of Chicago vote fraud I have ever heard were always perpetrated by the poll workers. I have never heard of individual voters showing up to cast multiple votes (unless a fifth of whiskey was also involved in the story).<br /><br />The picture ID laws are just another step towards a "papers please" police state.AndyKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17668230729522669805noreply@blogger.com